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Obviously a welcome message but also a description of what this forum is about. Also a few tips about using the forum and associated pages.

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Postby NeillHog on Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:07 pm

Welcome to The Systems Place.

Arriving here – your first question is probably “what is this forum about?”
A good question with a complicated answer. Obviously it is about sytems thinking (you probably guessed that from the name) and systems practices but that only leads on to the question "What is systems thinking?"
To try and begin to answer that question, here is a quote from Andrea Berardi

I would say that systems thinking/a systems approach is about:
1 looking first at the "big picture"/environment when engaging with a complex/messy situation before narrowing down on the "causes" and "solutions" of the problem (i.e. setting boundaries);
2. Valuing multiple perspectives (different cognitive styles, intelligences, etc) while at the same time being aware of those in positions of power who will always work to maintain their position (identifying the positive and negative feedback loops in operation that will prevent/enable your system to work);
3. Establishing an optimizing, often subversive, "learning cycle" for working through complex/messy situations.

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Adding attachments
Systems without diagrams would be like ... a bike with no wheels?
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