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T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Andrea on Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:11 pm

Just came out of the examination meeting yesterday, and we've had some fantastic results this year! I've copied below our course wide results, with figures for previous years included (first figure is for 2008, second figure is for 2009, and third figure is for 2010 - to note that the figures I had reported in previous years were slight underestimates since they did not take into account late submissions, whereas these do):

TMA 01
submission rate = 91%, 93%, 95%
mean score = 72%, 72%, 72%

TMA 02
submission rate = 87%, 90%, 90%
mean score = 77%, 75%, 75%

TMA 03
submission rate = 77%, 81%, 85%
mean score = 64%, 65%, 63%

TMA 04
submission rate = 65%, 72%, 78%
mean score = 64%, 62%, 63%

TMA 05
submission rate = 72%, 71%, 78%
mean score = 68%, 70%, 69%

TMA 06
submission rate = 72%, 71%, 78%
mean score = 66%, 66%, 67%,

ECA
submission rate = 67%, 62%, 72%
mean score = 69%, 68%, 65%

Almost 3/4 of T214 students are now managing to complete the course! This is a major achievement in that the average for most OU courses is around the 65% mark. What is also fantastic is that a majority of students are achieving a Grade 2 or 1. This is a remarkable achievement considering that many students think the course is actually quite tough. There must be something in it that keeps them going, and put the effort in to get such good grades! ;)

I also have to say that a lot of the credit must go to our wonderful tutors - they've devised great ways of supporting students through a variety of very clever means :D
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Re: T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Teiana on Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:18 pm

excellent news! :-)
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Re: T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Teiana on Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:20 pm

oh and i think, andrea, you ought to reach around and give yourself a pat on the back.
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Re: T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Neill on Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:43 pm

Hello Andrea,

Congratulations. Amazing retention rates.
But, if I was you, I would write personally to the 6% who made it to TMA06 and then did not hand in a ECA.
6% is a lot to lose in one go.
I am sure that feedback can be used to half that number.

Please tell more about the great methods the tutos use. I was very impresses by Georgy Holdens on line tutorials in T307. Is it something similar?

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Re: T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Neill on Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:59 pm

I would also ask why 5% do not even submit the first TMA?
I assume that T214 does not appeal to the "starter student" so it can not be due to a failure to understand that work is involved.
I would really like to see some feedback from real people who paid money and then never even submitted TMA01.

I am also interested in how many of these "failures to submit" are on offs and how many were "never submitted again".
I think there is a lot of information hidden in here.
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Re: T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Teiana on Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:08 pm

yes i'm curious about whether the same people that don't submit eg, TMA01, are the same ones in the percentage on eg, TMA06. Maybe some people miss the first one and then catch up later..


the trouble with looking at percentages is they can be a bit difficult to really read. Real numbers might have more meaning. (like 50% could be one of two people, or 20 of forty..) 5% might sound a lot but if it's only one or two people, maybe it's just not a big deal..
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Re: T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Neill on Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:58 pm

I have been thinking how to show what I am asking as a diagram.
And I do not have an answer.

If the course only had 2 TMAs then it would have 4 rows.

TMA1 yes, TMA2 yes
TMA1 yes, TMA2 no
TMA1 no, TMA2 yes
TMA1 no, TMA2 no

But with 7 it would have 2⁷ lines and be unwieldy.
Maybe what we are interested in for each TMA is

People who submitted
People who did not submit but submitted a later TMA
People who did not submit and never submitted again

That would give us 3 rows (as above) with 7 columns (each TMA).
That may help.
Is this available?

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Re: T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Teiana on Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:39 pm

maybe your diagram is just

number of people |
|
|
|
______________________ last tma submitted


like a bar chart...

does that work?

so maybe (regardless of whether they missed any in the middle) you could see at what point people gave up sending tmas in.

or am i confused ( it is past my bedtime)
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Re: T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Teiana on Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:45 pm

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badly drawn sorry, this isn't my pc. TMA number here is 'the last one they sent in' NOT 'how many people sent that one in'.
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Re: T214 2010 presentation results -- amazing!!

Postby Teiana on Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:47 pm

clearly that's a sketch of a diagram rather than an actual one, no actual statistics were harmed during its production...
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