T214 is dead, long live T2*&!!

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T214 is dead, long live T2*&!!

Postby Andrea on Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:53 pm

The next presentation, in 2012, will be the last for T214 (and T306). This will be the end of almost 40 years of 'official' systems teaching at undergraduate level within the OU.

However, a group of systems people have gone underground and we will be producing a new set of second and third level courses under another banner. It won't have systems in its name, but..... ;)
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Re: T214 is dead, long live T2*&!!

Postby jim_lewis1 on Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:21 pm

I'm glad to hear there will be something available. I can't think of anything less systemic than not teaching systems at undergraduate level!
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Re: T214 is dead, long live T2*&!!

Postby emilgud on Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:08 pm

So Since I was thinking of doing T306 Should I wait for the new courses or catch the last gasp?

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Re: T214 is dead, long live T2*&!!

Postby Andrea on Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:31 pm

I would go for T306 if you're into systems thinking. T306 is 60 points of pure systems (with admittedly desperately out of date case studies and software). the replacement will be 30 points, with an emphasis on a particular discipline - the systems teaching will be much lighter.

At least the replacements will introduce people to systems thinking at undergraduate level, giving those that have really caught the bug to pursue system studies at postgraduate level through the very successful 'Systems Thinking in Practice' MSc ( http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/postgradua ... on/f47.htm )
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Re: T214 is dead, long live T2*&!!

Postby teapack on Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:39 pm

And I suppose if you've opted for business studies with systems thinking it's the only way to go anyway...
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Re: T214 is dead, long live T2*&!!

Postby Karen on Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:05 pm

Its a shame T214 is going, I did that and T306 as part of my Bus Studies + Sys Practice degree and the systems thinking has been really useful in business. They never did sort out adding T214 to the Leadershp and Management degree even though they have T306 in there, guess it doesn't matter now...!

B201 has three themes, one of which is 'ways of thinking' of which Systems Thinking is one of them and I've come across systems thinking again in my current B301 course - so it does crop up in other courses too, it is not dead.

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Re: T214 is dead, long live T2*&!!

Postby rutty on Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:41 am

I'll be posting my T214 EMA over to Milton Keynes this morning :)

I've found the whole thing rather difficult, but very interesting and revealing. It's been fun/frustrating/rewarding - especially trying to fit it in with a full-time job, over-lapping OU modules and entertaining my toddler daughter - but my brain aches and I now need a rest.

Thanks, Andrea, for engaging with us on the course. You were the only module author to do so and it's great to see someone so passionate about their topic. Of the blocks in the course I did quite a lot worse on Block 2 (!) in my TMAs but only because it tool such a long time for me to engage the correct side of my brain.

It's all been very worthwhile and I do hope to be enjoying systems thinking for quite a number of years to come :)

T306 next year!

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Re: T214 is dead, long live T2*&!!

Postby Neill on Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:35 pm

Dave wrote
It's been fun/frustrating/rewarding

Sounds like a good summary.

I met Andrea in Georgetown, Guyana on Sunday and guess he is now "out of contact" for a few weeks - the Internet in the interior is so slow.
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